I have recently been spending a decent amount of time working on my turn and river strategies. It is somewhat easy to play in a relatively straightforward manner and not do anything horribly wrong, but if you want to succeed at the highest levels, you simply must be willing to make what may appear like an optimistic bluff from time to time, often when you find yourself with one of the worst hands in your range or when you block the nuts. On one of my recent poker trips outside of America, I made a point to play a bunch of online tournaments take as many turn and river spots that I could. Here is one of them:
On day two of a $100 buy-in event that started with 20,000 players, with blinds at 2,000/4,000 with a 400 ante, the action folded around to a somewhat loose, aggressive player in the cutoff who raised to 8,000 out of his 165,000 stack. I defended my big blind with Ac-6s. When facing a min-raise, you need to defend with a wide range if you don’t want to allow your opponents constantly steal your blinds. I defend with many hands that are much worse than A-6.
The flop came 9c-8h-6h.
I checked, my opponent bet 8,000 into the 21,600 pot and I called.
I do not think raising has much merit because when my opponent calls, he will have either made hands that crush me or draws that have plenty of equity. With my marginal made hand from out of position, my goal is to get to the showdown as cheaply as possible. Folding would be too tight, even though I could easily be in bad shape.
The turn was the (9c-8h-6h)-3c.
I checked, my opponent bet 28,800 out of his 153,000 remaining stack into the 37,400 pot and I called.
I could certainly fold on the turn, but given my opponent’s loose, aggressive tendencies, I am fine seeing the river. I fully planned to fold to an additional bet if I failed to improve. You must be careful to structure your ranges such that you do not fold too many of your holdings on any individual street. In this spot, folding this specific bottom pair would be a bit too weak against all but the tightest, most straightforward opponents.
The river was the (9c-8h-6h-3c)-Qc.
I checked and my opponent bet 44,000 out of his 124,400 remaining stack into the 95,000 pot.
I was unsure what to make of my opponent’s bet size. Of course, he could easily have a nut hand such as a flush, straight, or set. He could also value bet with all over pairs and top pairs. However, given I have the nut flush blocker (it is impossible for my opponent to have the nut flush when I have the Ace of clubs in my hand) and a 6 (making it more difficult for my opponent to have two-pair or a set) I decided to turn my weak bottom pair into a bluff, hoping to make my opponent fold his one-pair and perhaps some of his two-pair hands.
After some deliberation, I went all-in for 80,400 more. My opponent thought for about a minute before mucking, awarding me a sizable pot.
I continued making somewhat aggressive plays until I lost a big all-in coin flip at the end of day two, leaving me with only 10 big blinds with 27 players remaining. I eventually petered out in 18th place, cashing for roughly $5,500. All in all, it was a lot of fun!
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The check raise bluff is great against good thinking players. They know that a river raise is so heavily weighted towards value in practice (even though the GTO folk SWEAR they’re balanced there…no one is), so there is a tendency to overfold there. Great spot for it!
Jonathan, your stack was obviously larger than his since you put him all in at the end. What size was your stack? And does your stack size matter (beyond making this a tournament decision for him), as in what size remaining stack are you comfortable with taking this line on turn and river?
The stack size does not really matter. The idea of tournament life is drastically overplayed.
When you do a river bluff what petcentage of the times do you decide on the river, the turn, or the flop? When exactly did you decide in this hand? What was your primary indicator that this might work?
This is discussed extensively in the PokerCoaching.com homework challenges. Go there and get a free trial to see. It is way too much for me to recreate here.
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I have sent an email. Thanks!