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Great video! Very well explained.
Would that be the same way to play that hand if I’m in a 1-3 or a 2-5 cash game ?
With these stack sizes, yep!
With a weak top pair hand in say seat 3’s position a check call or raise all in is best if you feel the player is a maniac(obv a good player would have folded preflop to the 3 bet anyway so that situation wouldnt have occurred) you mentioned that he should have folded pre bc of poor implied odds; however the call is justified with this hand if you feel the 3bettor i.e.jcardshark is a total maniac right? Although, if you feel jcardshark is a maniac then quite possibly a 4bet allin preflop is prob best anyway simply bc seat 3 is out of position and it’d only be for approx 7-8X (would rather be at bout 5-6X)his 3bet size.
would that be your same play (calling an all in bet) if it was the 2nd level of a tournament with you and the all in bettor in excess of 80 BB and the flop comes 4-4-4???…
I am not folding.
What’s your cbet size if your RHO had taken any of your courses (and decided to call your preflop 3 bet anyway)?
Likely 25% pot or so.
I understand 88 was not getting the correct implied odds against u to set mine but with the other guy in the hand, doesn’t that change his implied odds? Or do u not really count the opener since u 3bet & are the aggressor?
It does to some extent, but it is not as if you can count on both players paying you off every time you make a set.
I’m not sure about this play. You re-raised pre-flop. If pocket 88 checked and an over card peeled and one of you two hit it someone may say he should have bet…obviouly he was 50/50 on whether or not you had a pair.
I am not sure why you think I am 50/50 to have a pair. It depends a ton on my 3-betting range.
What a turrible play with the 88, I can’t believe that I will often have such weak opponents…
The more I play the less reasons I have to go all-in in a cash game or early in a tournament, to justify it, I would have to think that my oppoenent behind has a very strong hand – and my hand is still stronger. I also needed to see such a player to make foolish calls with 99-JJ and AQ, AK in his all-in call range, a rare donkey beast, even on lower stacks at Pokerstars I think.
In higher stacked cash games or tourneys I think you would be good to fold your KK against certain players , even with a non-wet flop: players may sometimes decide to move all-in with top set instead of value betting small or slowplaying when they guess (by experience or observation) that the player behind has such a hand KK or AA.
That’s to say in order to blindly call with your KK you have to know you play against donkeys.
I am all for making adjustments based on the opponent’s tendencies.